{"id":122537,"date":"2026-03-13T13:21:33","date_gmt":"2026-03-13T17:21:33","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.ludwig-van.com\/toronto\/?p=122537"},"modified":"2026-03-13T16:55:47","modified_gmt":"2026-03-13T20:55:47","slug":"interview-labyrinth-ontario-artistic-director-araz-salek-executive-director-david-dacks-talk-fundraiser-april-9-new-cohort","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.ludwig-van.com\/toronto\/2026\/03\/13\/interview-labyrinth-ontario-artistic-director-araz-salek-executive-director-david-dacks-talk-fundraiser-april-9-new-cohort\/","title":{"rendered":"INTERVIEW | Labyrinth Ontario Artistic Director Araz Salek &amp; Executive Director David Dacks Talk About The Fundraiser April 9 &amp; New Cohort"},"content":{"rendered":"<figure id=\"attachment_122541\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-122541\" style=\"width: 1200px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-122541\" src=\"https:\/\/www.ludwig-van.com\/toronto\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2026\/03\/Copy-of-Copy-of-INTERVIEW-2026-03-13T131612.109.jpg\" alt=\"L: Iranian tar player and Labyrinth Ontario Artistic Director Araz Salek (Photo courtesy of the artist); R: David Dacks, Executive Director of Labyrinth Ontario (Photo courtesy of the artist)\" width=\"1200\" height=\"628\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.ludwig-van.com\/toronto\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2026\/03\/Copy-of-Copy-of-INTERVIEW-2026-03-13T131612.109.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/www.ludwig-van.com\/toronto\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2026\/03\/Copy-of-Copy-of-INTERVIEW-2026-03-13T131612.109-300x157.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.ludwig-van.com\/toronto\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2026\/03\/Copy-of-Copy-of-INTERVIEW-2026-03-13T131612.109-1024x536.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.ludwig-van.com\/toronto\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2026\/03\/Copy-of-Copy-of-INTERVIEW-2026-03-13T131612.109-768x402.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1200px) 100vw, 1200px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-122541\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">L: Iranian tar player and Labyrinth Ontario Artistic Director Araz Salek (Photo courtesy of the artist); R: David Dacks, Executive Director of Labyrinth Ontario (Photo courtesy of the artist)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Labyrinth Ontario, an organization dedicated to expanding the appreciation and awareness of modal music, will he holding a fundraising event on April 9. With the graduation of the last group of artists who made up the cohort, which culminated in an <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ludwig-van.com\/toronto\/2025\/11\/05\/preview-labyrinth-ensemble-embarks-southern-ontario-tour\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Ontario tour in November 2025<\/a>, 13 new musicians will be beginning a four-year journey to study and perform modal music in its many forms.<\/p>\n<p>The event includes performances by Iranian Folios of Dastg\u0101h, and Turkish superstars Yahya Geylan and Canan Sezgin Geylan. There will be a CD sale of music from the makam and makam-adjacent genres, and a silent auction.<\/p>\n<p>LV caught up with Labyrinth Artistic Director <strong>Araz Salek<\/strong> and Executive Director <strong>David Dacks<\/strong> to talk about the organization and the new cohort.<\/p>\n<div class=\"jetpack-video-wrapper\"><span class=\"embed-youtube\" style=\"text-align:center; display: block;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"youtube-player\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/xBJg8HifN2k?version=3&#038;rel=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;showinfo=1&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;fs=1&#038;hl=en-US&#038;autohide=2&#038;wmode=transparent\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" style=\"border:0;\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-same-origin allow-popups allow-presentation\"><\/iframe><\/span><\/div>\n<h2>Labyrinth Ontario<\/h2>\n<p>Labyrinth began as a not-for-profit in 2017, with the goal of promoting the modal\/makam musical traditions of the Mediterranean region, and Central, West, and South Asia. Those traditions came to Canada via immigrant cultures, but are more and more a part of Canada\u2019s musical ecosystem.<\/p>\n<p>Modal music is inherently inclusive. It involves expression, and improvisation is a crucial component. While Labyrinth begins with tradition, its goals include bringing the music into 20th century Toronto.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThroughout the past four years with the Labyrinth Ensemble, I\u2019ve really grown as a musician. What makes this experience so special for me is that it brings together musicians and instruments from so many different traditions,\u201d remarks <strong>Amely Zhou<\/strong>, Labyrinth Ensemble first cohort in a statement.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt\u2019s such a unique and inspiring idea \u2014 bringing these sounds together right here in Toronto, a city that truly celebrates diversity and creativity. This is exactly where something like this should happen.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The cohort of selected musicians will receive intensive two-week training sessions twice yearly during their four-year tenure, and perform in various configurations around Toronto and Ontario. The Makam Nights initiative brings duos and trios from the ensemble to venues and festivals around Ontario, as well as presenting a monthly concert on the third Thursday of every month as part of a residency at the Tranzac Club.<\/p>\n<p>Community building is an important part of the organization\u2019s mandate, linking those who come from regions where modal music is the norm, and the musically open and curious of any background. Along with musician training and performance, the Makam in Schools program brings talks, performances, and round-table discussions to area schools. This year, the program will visit high schools in and around Toronto.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_122542\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-122542\" style=\"width: 1200px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-122542\" src=\"https:\/\/www.ludwig-van.com\/toronto\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2026\/03\/Copy-of-Copy-of-INTERVIEW-2026-03-13T131810.405.jpg\" alt=\"L: Musician and composer Efr\u00e9n L\u00f3pez, who\u2019ll lead the Labyrinth Toronto workshop in spring 2026 (Photo courtesy of the artist); R: Labyrinth Ensemble on tour in Ottawa in 2025 (Photo: Oluchi Eze)\" width=\"1200\" height=\"628\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.ludwig-van.com\/toronto\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2026\/03\/Copy-of-Copy-of-INTERVIEW-2026-03-13T131810.405.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/www.ludwig-van.com\/toronto\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2026\/03\/Copy-of-Copy-of-INTERVIEW-2026-03-13T131810.405-300x157.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.ludwig-van.com\/toronto\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2026\/03\/Copy-of-Copy-of-INTERVIEW-2026-03-13T131810.405-1024x536.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.ludwig-van.com\/toronto\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2026\/03\/Copy-of-Copy-of-INTERVIEW-2026-03-13T131810.405-768x402.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1200px) 100vw, 1200px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-122542\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">L: Musician and composer Efr\u00e9n L\u00f3pez, who\u2019ll lead the Labyrinth Toronto workshop in spring 2026 (Photo courtesy of the artist); R: Labyrinth Ensemble on tour in Ottawa in 2025 (Photo: Oluchi Eze)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<h2>Labyrinth Artistic Director Araz Salek and Executive Director David Dacks: The Interview<\/h2>\n<p>\u201cThis is a four year long program,\u201d explains Araz Salek.<\/p>\n<p>The cohort of musicians, including 13 new members, and one who&#8217;s graduating from the program after spring 2026, includes:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Alex Fournier: upright bass<\/li>\n<li>Araz Salek: tar<\/li>\n<li>Avashalom Brailovesky: tar<\/li>\n<li>Behzad Danesh: guitar<\/li>\n<li>Beth Silver: cello<\/li>\n<li>Elise Boeur: violin, Hardanger fiddle<\/li>\n<li>Joshua Greenberg: oud<\/li>\n<li>Lina Cao: guzheng (not in debut performance)<\/li>\n<li>Naoko Tsujita: percussion<\/li>\n<li>Naghmeh Farahmand: percussion<\/li>\n<li>Saghi Farsijani: qanun<\/li>\n<li>Sara Constant: flute<\/li>\n<li>Soheil Sadeghi: kemanche<\/li>\n<li>Yalda Ehsani: clarinet<\/li>\n<li>Yang Chen: percussion (leaving after Spring 2026)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>It adds new instruments to the mix, including guzheng, Hardanger fiddle, qanun and microtonal guitar. Guest musician <strong>Efr\u00e9n L\u00f3pez<\/strong>, a world renowned virtuoso and composer on hurdy gurdy and a variety of lutes, will lead the ensemble in exploring European Medieval, the Eastern Mediterranean, the Middle East, and Central Asian traditions in their first two-week workshop this spring. The experience will culminate in a performance on May 9 at the Aga Khan Museum, and members of the graduating cohort will also perform.<\/p>\n<p>The instrumentation has changed with the new cohort, but the number of participants has remained the same. \u201cIt&#8217;s always 14, for the four years,\u201d Salek continues.<\/p>\n<p>Selecting the new cohort was an involved process. \u201cIt was an audition process,\u201d Salek explains. Each candidate had to perform one piece in full, and at least excerpts of two more. Due to the ongoing effort of Labyrinth Ontario, interest has grown over the years. \u201cWe had a lot more applications,\u201d he says.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe auditions were even more competitive this time,\u201d Dacks adds. There were applicants who played a broader range of instruments, and who came from various backgrounds.<\/p>\n<p>The applicants were evaluated according to their ability, and also with a view to keeping a balance among the cohort. \u201cWhen we put a call out, we keep it open to anyone to join, with any background, as long as they can play the microtonal nature of the music,\u201d Araz says. \u201cIt&#8217;s not really about their background, as long as they&#8217;re willing to perform.\u201d<\/p>\n<div class=\"jetpack-video-wrapper\"><span class=\"embed-youtube\" style=\"text-align:center; display: block;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"youtube-player\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/niEKfC2o9lY?version=3&#038;rel=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;showinfo=1&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;fs=1&#038;hl=en-US&#038;autohide=2&#038;wmode=transparent\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" style=\"border:0;\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-same-origin allow-popups allow-presentation\"><\/iframe><\/span><\/div>\n<h3>Audience Building<\/h3>\n<p>Word has spread about the organization and its training program. \u201cWe&#8217;ve been doing quite a lot of work and doing presentations around the city since 2017,\u201d Salek explains. That effort began with a 12-week long campaign involving two concerts per week, along with workshops. The organization has continued to present the music in various settings, including smaller and larger venues, and city parks.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe&#8217;ve tried to be really active in the city,\u201d Salek says. Those efforts have expanded through the region to include areas like Peterborough, Hamilton, Bancroft, and Guelph.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cOur mandate is actually Southern Ontario,\u201d adds David Dacks. \u201cSmaller urban centres are changing,\u201d he continues. \u201cThere&#8217;s more diversity of culture.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI use this analogy, it&#8217;s just like wine,\u201d Araz says. It\u2019s a matter of developing your musical tastes beyond what you may be used to. Like wine, too, modal music changes with different regions. \u201cIt really takes time to build up that taste.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>As Davidexplains, when he\u2019s at a concert, he\u2019s not on stage. \u201cI&#8217;m in the audience,\u201d he says. It allows him to observe the mix first hand. \u201cWe have different audience segments, probably the biggest one of which is people who are born into this music. That&#8217;s a group of people who will be intrinsically more familiar [with the music],\u201d he says.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThen, they are people who are musical omnivores,\u201d Dacks says. That includes a good portion of graduates from various musical programs. \u201cThey&#8217;re curious, well educated.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Some of those musical omnivores end up as applicants for the cohort. \u201cIt&#8217;s an amazing technical and spiritual challenge,\u201d Dacks says of the process.<\/p>\n<p>\u201c[There are] other people who come because they&#8217;re interested in different cultures,\u201d David continues. He relates a concert that the Ensemble played at Toronto\u2019s Evergreen Brickworks venue. It included a large sculpture that was tuned to a modal scale when struck at various points. \u201cAbout 500 people saw that,\u201d he says. \u201cWe&#8217;ve gotten gigs from that from a crowd on a random Saturday.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Along with the music, there is an inherent academic component to Labyrinth\u2019s goals. It\u2019s about educating people whose background is outside the makam music culture, and talking about ideas like decolonization, and cultural exchange.<\/p>\n<p>When people experience the music, the reaction goes beyond mere curiosity.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt&#8217;s beyond a novelty,\u201d Dacks says. \u201cWe see this as an important force in Canadian culture.\u201d<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_122543\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-122543\" style=\"width: 1200px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-122543\" src=\"https:\/\/www.ludwig-van.com\/toronto\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2026\/03\/Makam-Nights-Community-Programming.jpg\" alt=\"Makam Nights community program at Tranzac in Toronto (Photo courtesy of Labyrinth Ontario)\" width=\"1200\" height=\"803\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.ludwig-van.com\/toronto\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2026\/03\/Makam-Nights-Community-Programming.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/www.ludwig-van.com\/toronto\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2026\/03\/Makam-Nights-Community-Programming-300x201.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.ludwig-van.com\/toronto\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2026\/03\/Makam-Nights-Community-Programming-1024x685.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.ludwig-van.com\/toronto\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2026\/03\/Makam-Nights-Community-Programming-768x514.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1200px) 100vw, 1200px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-122543\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Makam Nights community program at Tranzac in Toronto (Photo courtesy of Labyrinth Ontario)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<h3>What is \u201cClassical Music\u201d?<\/h3>\n<p>\u201cWhen I first integrated to Canada &#8230; I listened to 100 days of Haydn symphonies,\u201d Salek says. \u201cWhat is that definition [of classical music]?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>There is Indian classical music, Iranian classical music&#8230; The word isn\u2019t exclusive to Eurocentric culture.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cBuilding audience for Labyrinth was one of the most challenging efforts,\u201d Salek recalls. \u201cWe resisted to use some of the labels that marketing companies use.\u201d That includes \u201cworld music\u201d, which simply becomes a repository for everything not tied to what we call Western culture.<\/p>\n<p>As he points out, modal music isn\u2019t specific to any nationality.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe didn&#8217;t want to associate ourselves with a specific country,\u201d Salek says. \u201cWe&#8217;re talking about a broader music making practice.\u201d Araz notes that the makam traditions stretch from China to Bulgaria to northern Africa.<\/p>\n<p>Labyrinth Ontario wants those traditions to become part of the Canadian mosaic. \u201cWhenever it comes to culture presenting culture, diasporic culture, it all comes down to roots \u2014 nation states,\u201d Salek says. \u201cWhich to me, they exist, and they do a very fine job preserving their culture.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Salek, and Labyrinth Ontario, wants to see the music move beyond those historical boundaries. \u201cAs a Canadian, I don&#8217;t want to see Turkish music being preserved here,\u201d he says \u201cI want to hear how Turkish music can enrich our sonic landscape,\u201d he adds.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cUs Canadians enjoy that, but to be able to enjoy that, we need to think about it beyond the idea of nation state. We need to deal with the actual musical material.,\u201d Salek says. As he notes, performance and a deeper appreciation of both modal and Western classical music requires training.<\/p>\n<p>Insisting on national or specific regional purity is beside the point. \u201cIt doesn\u2019t explain what the actual musical material is about,\u201d Salek says. \u201cIt gets reduced to identity politics. We resist that.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The emphasis is on learning, and enriching Canada\u2019s sound culture.<\/p>\n<p>David Dacks was a global music journalist for years prior to becoming part of Labyrinth Ontario, writing for prominent journals and organizations. He also served as Artistic and then Executive Director of Toronto&#8217;s Music Gallery from 2011 to 2023. \u201cWhat I find particularly interesting about the Labyrinth Ensemble is that the music is the star,\u201d he says.<\/p>\n<p>He emphasizes the dedication of the cohort of musicians, who\u2019ll learn from eight different masters of the genre throughout their four-year terms. Some come from a Western classical music training.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt&#8217;s improvising in the way that Western classical music just doesn\u2019t,\u201d Dacks says. \u201cBy the end of the last cohort, the facility of the people in the group to have really expressive solo statements, and work together [&#8230;] I&#8217;ve never seen anything like it in my whole career.,\u201d he adds.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI&#8217;m really honoured to be a part of it,\u201d he says.<\/p>\n<p>Dacks notes that there is a lot of planning that goes into Labyrinth Ontario\u2019s programs. \u201cWe put a lot of effort into designing what we do,\u201d he says. That includes building in components that ensure equity. \u201cDesigning programming where everyone is valued, and every one contributes,\u201d he says, \u201cthat is one of the things that comes through in the final product.\u201d<\/p>\n<div class=\"jetpack-video-wrapper\"><span class=\"embed-youtube\" style=\"text-align:center; display: block;\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"youtube-player\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/0se9uGwrrMY?version=3&#038;rel=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;showinfo=1&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;fs=1&#038;hl=en-US&#038;autohide=2&#038;wmode=transparent\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" style=\"border:0;\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts allow-same-origin allow-popups allow-presentation\"><\/iframe><\/span><\/div>\n<h3>The Fundraiser<\/h3>\n<p>\u201cThe fundraiser that&#8217;s coming up in April is a big one,\u201d Dacks says.<\/p>\n<p>Turkish musicians Yahya Geylan and Canan Sezgin Geylan will perform, and Dacks points out that the duo\u2019s first Toronto performance was also at a Labyrinth Ontario event. \u201cIt was weeks after they emigrated from Turkey,\u201d he says. \u201cThey are both master musicians in Turkey,\u201d he adds. \u201cThey got into it with us on the ground floor.\u201d In their home country, they were stars on TV and radio, as well as in concert halls. \u201cTo have them play at the fundraiser is very special,\u201d he says.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThat is the kind of community that we are encouraging,\u201d David says. \u201cWe&#8217;re here to support and help them express themselves in the way that they want to express themselves.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Their continued success in Canada shouldn\u2019t come as outliers to the local music scene, but as a valued part of it.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt definitely has a political dimension.\u201d<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Find tickets and more details about the Labyrinth Fundraiser event on April 9, 2026 at the Tranzac main hall [<strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.canadahelps.org\/en\/charities\/labyrinth-musical-workshop-ontario\/events\/labyrinth-fundraiser-2026-ensembletogether\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">HERE<\/a><\/strong>].<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong><em>Are you looking to promote an <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ludwig-van.com\/toronto\/advertising\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"color: #0e101a;\"><u>event<\/u><\/span><\/a>? 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