{"id":119930,"date":"2025-12-02T14:28:30","date_gmt":"2025-12-02T19:28:30","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.ludwig-van.com\/toronto\/?p=119930"},"modified":"2025-12-02T14:28:30","modified_gmt":"2025-12-02T19:28:30","slug":"interview-award-winning-playwright-michael-healey-talks-rogers-v-rogers-crows-theatre","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.ludwig-van.com\/toronto\/2025\/12\/02\/interview-award-winning-playwright-michael-healey-talks-rogers-v-rogers-crows-theatre\/","title":{"rendered":"INTERVIEW | Award Winning Playwright Michael Healey Talks About Rogers V. Rogers At Crow\u2019s Theatre"},"content":{"rendered":"<figure id=\"attachment_119932\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-119932\" style=\"width: 1200px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-119932\" src=\"https:\/\/www.ludwig-van.com\/toronto\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/12\/Copy-of-INTERVIEW-36.jpg\" alt=\"Award-winning playwright Michael Healey (Photo courtesy of the artist)\" width=\"1200\" height=\"628\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.ludwig-van.com\/toronto\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/12\/Copy-of-INTERVIEW-36.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/www.ludwig-van.com\/toronto\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/12\/Copy-of-INTERVIEW-36-300x157.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.ludwig-van.com\/toronto\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/12\/Copy-of-INTERVIEW-36-1024x536.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.ludwig-van.com\/toronto\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/12\/Copy-of-INTERVIEW-36-768x402.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1200px) 100vw, 1200px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-119932\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Award-winning playwright Michael Healey (Photo courtesy of the artist)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Crow\u2019s Theatre presents Rogers v. Rogers, a play based on corporate struggles of Rogers Communications, and the family struggles behind it, opening in previews today, December 2. It\u2019s written by Michael Healey, and directed by Chris Abraham. The play stars Tom Rooney (Fifteen Dogs, Uncle Vanya).<\/p>\n<p>But \u2014 is a play based on a corporate story really interesting enough to take the stage?<\/p>\n<p>Those who\u2019ve experienced Healey\u2019s previous corporate themed drama, The Master Plan, will know the answer is a resounding yes.<\/p>\n<h2>The Background<\/h2>\n<p>Ted Rogers built one of Canada&#8217;s largest telecommunications companies, and when he died in 2008, he was the country&#8217;s fifth richest person in terms of net worth. What he left, however, in addition to cell phone service and a media conglomerate, was an acrimonious situation among his children.<\/p>\n<p>That situation came to a head in 2021 when his son Edward attempted a company takeover that embroiled him and his sisters, Melinda Rogers-Hixon, who had become deputy chair in 2018, and Martha Rogers, who had served as chair of the company&#8217;s ESG (environmental, social, and governance) committee since 2021.<\/p>\n<p>At the same time, Rogers was attempting to buy Shaw Communications, which would give the company a greater presence in Western Canada.<\/p>\n<p>The high drama of corporate machinations and family feud makes fertile material for theatre.<\/p>\n<p>LV spoke to playwright Michael Healey about the show.<\/p>\n<h2>Michael Healey: The Interview<\/h2>\n<p>\u201cThe <a href=\"https:\/\/financialpost.com\/telecom\/rogers-feud-settled-as-sisters-depart\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Rogers family exploding in public<\/a> a few years ago was kind of a unique event,\u201d Healey comments. \u201cUsually [&#8230;] we see what they want us to see.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>As he notes, in the social media era, public figures typically lead highly curated lives \u2014 at least from the outside. There are communications and image specialists to advise them at every turn.<\/p>\n<p>The play is based \u2014 including the title \u2014 on author Alexandra Posadzki\u2019s 2024 book Rogers v. Rogers: The Battle for Control of Canada&#8217;s Telecom Empire.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe great thing about Alexandra&#8217;s book was how uncareful these people were suddenly being,\u201d he comments. It allows for an unusually candid view of the inner workings of the corporate and familial crisis.<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s not only the specific details of the situation that are of interest, particularly with today\u2019s headlines.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt&#8217;s a kind of fun gateway into questions about why there&#8217;s an oligarchy in the telecom business,\u201d Healey remarks. As he points out, Canadians pay some of the highest rates for cell phone service in the world.<\/p>\n<p>The story, at its heart, boils down to classic sibling rivalry. Ted Rogers\u2019 daughter Melinda was favoured by him over his son Edward when it came to business matters.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cEdward started in the business before Melinda did,\u201d Michael points out. But, it was Melinda who showed a natural gift for leadership. Still, as time wore on, so did her patience with the situation. \u201cEventually, she got tired of waiting around.\u201d Melinda would go on to start her own company in California\u2019s Silicon Valley. \u201cEdward stuck with it.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Then, in 2021, he saw his chance to take control.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_119933\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-119933\" style=\"width: 1200px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-119933\" src=\"https:\/\/www.ludwig-van.com\/toronto\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/12\/ROG-V-ROG.jpg\" alt=\"Actor Tom Rooney in Crow's Theatre's Rogers v. Rogers (Photo courtesy of Crow's Theatre)\" width=\"1200\" height=\"800\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.ludwig-van.com\/toronto\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/12\/ROG-V-ROG.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/www.ludwig-van.com\/toronto\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/12\/ROG-V-ROG-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.ludwig-van.com\/toronto\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/12\/ROG-V-ROG-1024x683.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.ludwig-van.com\/toronto\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/12\/ROG-V-ROG-768x512.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1200px) 100vw, 1200px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-119933\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Actor Tom Rooney in Crow&#8217;s Theatre&#8217;s Rogers v. Rogers (Photo courtesy of Crow&#8217;s Theatre)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<h3>The Play<\/h3>\n<p>In Rogers v. Rogers, one actor (Tom Rooney) plays all the roles.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThere are many different roles,\u201d Healey explains. \u201cTom Rooney is the actor, and he plays all the parts.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Combined with family drama, Rogers was attempting to purchase Shaw Communications at the time.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI thought it was incredibly odd that, when the corporation needed to seem organized [&#8230;] that Edward would try to take over the organization at that point.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Matthew Boswell, Commissioner of Competition, tried his best to block the merger, which would of course reduce competitiveness in the telecommunications sector even more.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cHe failed,\u201d Healey says. \u201cI saw an interesting parallel between his attempt to do a hard thing on the public&#8217;s behalf, and Edward&#8217;s attempt.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>After years of bickering in court, the Rogers-Shaw merger was finally approved in 2023, albeit with conditions attached. A <a href=\"https:\/\/www.canada.ca\/en\/competition-bureau\/news\/2023\/01\/statement-from-the-commissioner-of-competition-on-the-federal-court-of-appeals-decision-regarding-the-rogers-shaw-merger.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">public statement from Matthew Boswell, Commissioner of Competition<\/a>, outlined his disappointment in the Tribunal&#8217;s final ruling.<\/p>\n<p>In the play, Edward and Matthew emerge as duelling protagonists.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThis is another way that I get to get into the other aspects [of the story].\u201d As Michael points out, the merger is a less salacious, but also interesting aspect of the story.<\/p>\n<p>Why is there so little competition in the telecommunications industry in Canada? The play tries to get at the heart of it. \u201cWhy that&#8217;s true in Canada and what can be done about it.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Portraying both sides of that story is an interesting challenge for an actor.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cTom Rooney is an amazing character actor,\u201d Healey says, noting his warmth and accessibility. \u201cIt&#8217;s a fun game for the audience.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s not the first time that Healey has tackled the intersection of business and social issues in theatrical form.<\/p>\n<p>In 2023, Crow&#8217;s Theatre produced <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ludwig-van.com\/toronto\/2023\/09\/29\/scrutiny-crows-master-plan-wild-theatrical-ride-recent-toronto-history\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">The Master Plan<\/a>, based on Josh O\u2019Kane\u2019s bestselling book Sideways: The City Google Couldn\u2019t Buy. It dealt with Sidewalks Lab, an affiliate of Google, a company that tried to take over a Toronto waterfront project. Healey wrote the play based on O\u2019Kane\u2019s book.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI&#8217;ve been writing about public policy, politicians [&#8230;] for about 20 years now,\u201d Michael says. He\u2019s concerned with the societal fallout that results from corporate shenanigans.<\/p>\n<p>In the case of The Master Plan, the deeper issue, for Healey, was about Canada as a whole.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWhy does Canada have trouble innovating?\u201d he wonders, citing crucial areas like housing and sustainability. \u201cWhat&#8217;s the fault in us that we can&#8217;t innovate in this area?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Part of the problem with the Master Plan scenario was the involvement of Google, and the antipathy so many Canadians feel about the company. \u201cSure, Google is probably a bad idea, but what is it about us that keeps us from doing big things in these areas?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>In both stories, it\u2019s a public servant who becomes a natural hero figure, a sympathetic character the audience can relate to.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe need to watch somebody struggle,\u201d he says. \u201cIt&#8217;s always the hard thing when you try to write something about politics and public policy,\u201d he adds.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt&#8217;s taken me a long time, and I&#8217;ve written a lot of plays, to understand what the assignment is,\u201d he notes, \u201cto create something fun and rich. You can&#8217;t create something on just a surface level.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>He cites the need for such a play to be relevant, funny, and provocative at the same time, and to present a multi-layered interpretation of the story.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cPart of the game of the evening is to watch Tom Rooney play all these characters,\u201d he says.<\/p>\n<p>The climax of the story is a Zoom meeting between all the parties involved.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cTom plays all the characters. It&#8217;s extraordinary to watch.\u201d<\/p>\n<h3>Performances<\/h3>\n<p>The show opens in previews today, December 2, with opening night on December 10. Tickets are selling fast.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThis play will be sold out for opening night,\u201d Healey says. In fact, most of the December dates are already sold out, with most others showing limited availability. \u201cThey just opened up another week of tickets.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The run has already been extended to January 17, 2026, and may possibly be extended beyond that if tickets continue to sell at this rate.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Find show details and tickets for Rogers v. Rogers [<strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.crowstheatre.com\/shows-events\/rogers-v-rogers\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">HERE<\/a><\/strong>].<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong><em>Are you looking to promote an <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ludwig-van.com\/toronto\/advertising\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"color: #0e101a;\"><u>event<\/u><\/span><\/a>? Have a\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.ludwig-van.com\/toronto\/masthead\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><u>news tip<\/u><\/a>? 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