{"id":119404,"date":"2025-11-12T10:58:15","date_gmt":"2025-11-12T15:58:15","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.ludwig-van.com\/toronto\/?p=119404"},"modified":"2025-11-12T13:00:01","modified_gmt":"2025-11-12T18:00:01","slug":"scrutiny-ava-secret-conversations-offers-glimpse-hollywood-royalty-days-past","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.ludwig-van.com\/toronto\/2025\/11\/12\/scrutiny-ava-secret-conversations-offers-glimpse-hollywood-royalty-days-past\/","title":{"rendered":"SCRUTINY | Ava: The Secret Conversations Offers A Glimpse At Hollywood Royalty Of Days Past"},"content":{"rendered":"<figure id=\"attachment_119406\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-119406\" style=\"width: 1200px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-119406\" src=\"https:\/\/www.ludwig-van.com\/toronto\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/Copy-of-REVIEW-35.jpg\" alt=\"Actress Elizabeth McGovern in The Mirvish production of Ava: The Secret Conversations (Photo: Jeff Lorch)\" width=\"1200\" height=\"628\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.ludwig-van.com\/toronto\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/Copy-of-REVIEW-35.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/www.ludwig-van.com\/toronto\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/Copy-of-REVIEW-35-300x157.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.ludwig-van.com\/toronto\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/Copy-of-REVIEW-35-1024x536.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.ludwig-van.com\/toronto\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/Copy-of-REVIEW-35-768x402.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1200px) 100vw, 1200px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-119406\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Elizabeth McGovern in Ava: The Secret Conversations (Photo: Jeff Lorch)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><em><strong>David Mirvish &amp; Hannah Mirvish and Karl Sydow\/Ava: The Secret Conversations, written by Elizabeth McGovern, based on the book \u201cThe Secret Conversations\u201d by Peter Evans and Ava Gardner, directed by Moritz von Stuelpnagel (with the support of the Ava Gardner Trust), CAA Theatre, closes Nov. 30. Tickets <a href=\"https:\/\/www.mirvish.com\/shows\/ava-the-secret-conversations\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">here<\/a>.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p>There is much to admire about the Hollywood female actors of today, but you cannot compare them with the great movie stars of the past.<\/p>\n<p>Just think about Rita Hayworth, Lana Turner, and Ava Gardner \u2014 the redhead, the blonde, and the brunette. They had a charisma that modern actors simply cannot match. Their glamour, their mystique, their magnetism was as huge as the their pictures that were splashed across billboards.<\/p>\n<p>The play Ava: The Secret Conversations reflects that over-the-top personality those women had.<\/p>\n<h3>The Play<\/h3>\n<p>In the play, however, we are not meeting the dazzling Ava Gardner of old. We are meeting an Ava at 66, who has suffered a stroke, who is in declining health, and who needs money.<\/p>\n<p>That is why she hires British journalist Peter Evans to ghostwrite her memoirs.<\/p>\n<p>This is a sad Ava. She declares she hates foul-mouthed women, but she is one herself. It is a raw Ava, defensive and volatile.<\/p>\n<p>Evan\u2019s agent pressures him to get the dirt on her husbands \u2014 Mickey Rooney, Artie Shaw, and Frank Sinatra. Yet Evans knows that it is Ava\u2019s story that matters, not theirs.<\/p>\n<h3>The Background<\/h3>\n<p>The background to the play is fascinating.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Elizabeth McGovern<\/strong>, who stars as Ava and who wrote the play, draws on the real tapes recorded by Peter Evans when he interviewed an ailing Ava Gardner in 1988.<\/p>\n<p>The sessions ended abruptly when Ava learned that Evans had been sued by Frank Sinatra years earlier after accusing him of Mafia connections. Ever loyal to Sinatra, she fired Evans and turned to other ghostwriters, whose sanitized version \u2014 Ava, My Story \u2014 was published posthumously in 1990.<\/p>\n<p>Only after her death did Evans revisit his raw, unfiltered recordings.<\/p>\n<p>With the permission of the Ava Gardner Trust, he began to shape them into what would become the book The Secret Conversations. Evans died in 2012, and the book was published in 2013.<\/p>\n<p>It is from those transcripts that McGovern drew the material for her play, preserving the tension and volatility of those interviews.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_119408\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-119408\" style=\"width: 1200px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-119408\" src=\"https:\/\/www.ludwig-van.com\/toronto\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/13-Ava-The-Secret-Conversations-Aaron-Costa-Ganis-and-Elizabeth-McGovern.-Photo-by-Jeff-Lorch-1328_5.jpg\" alt=\"Aaron Costa Ganis and Elizabeth McGovern in Ava: The Secret Conversations (Photo: Jeff Lorch)\" width=\"1200\" height=\"800\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.ludwig-van.com\/toronto\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/13-Ava-The-Secret-Conversations-Aaron-Costa-Ganis-and-Elizabeth-McGovern.-Photo-by-Jeff-Lorch-1328_5.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/www.ludwig-van.com\/toronto\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/13-Ava-The-Secret-Conversations-Aaron-Costa-Ganis-and-Elizabeth-McGovern.-Photo-by-Jeff-Lorch-1328_5-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.ludwig-van.com\/toronto\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/13-Ava-The-Secret-Conversations-Aaron-Costa-Ganis-and-Elizabeth-McGovern.-Photo-by-Jeff-Lorch-1328_5-1024x683.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.ludwig-van.com\/toronto\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/13-Ava-The-Secret-Conversations-Aaron-Costa-Ganis-and-Elizabeth-McGovern.-Photo-by-Jeff-Lorch-1328_5-768x512.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1200px) 100vw, 1200px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-119408\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Aaron Costa Ganis and Elizabeth McGovern in Ava: The Secret Conversations (Photo: Jeff Lorch)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<h3>The Structure<\/h3>\n<p>McGovern has structured the play with intelligence.<\/p>\n<p>We watch Evans tread on glass, trying not to set off Ava\u2019s temper as he coaxes her memories.<\/p>\n<p>Then we flash into scenes with Ava and each husband, with actor <strong>Aaron Costa Ganis<\/strong> transforming from Evans into Mickey Rooney, Artie Shaw and Frank Sinatra.<\/p>\n<p>Mickey Rooney, whom Ava calls a child who could not control himself. The intellectual Artie Shaw, whose arrogance masks deep insecurity \u2014 he cannot believe she beat him at chess. And Frank Sinatra, controlling and needy, desperate for her attention. These vignettes are both moving and revealing.<\/p>\n<p>From time to time Evans breaks away to have conversations with his agent which is a third layer of drama.<\/p>\n<p>Between these scenes, lavish projections of the young Ava \u2014 film clips, studio portraits, the glamorous goddess \u2014 remind us of the woman the world adored, even as we see her decline before us.<\/p>\n<h3>The Acting<\/h3>\n<p>Elizabeth McGovern suits the role of the older, frail Ava. Her thin frame, the short-cropped dark wig, and that gravelly voice all evoke the real woman near the end of her life. Her performance captures both Ava\u2019s wit and her weariness.<\/p>\n<p>Aaron Costa Ganis is strongest as the American men, and very irritating as the British accented Peter Evans where he sounds very mannered at best. Yet his portrayal as each of the husbands is quite remarkable, including his singing as Frank Sinatra.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Michael Bakkensen<\/strong>\u2019s offstage voice as Ed Victor, the pushy agent, adds a sharp note of realism to the exchanges.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_119409\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-119409\" style=\"width: 1200px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-119409\" src=\"https:\/\/www.ludwig-van.com\/toronto\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/5-Ava-The-Secret-Conversations-Elizabeth-McGovern.-Photo-by-Jeff-Lorch-0778.jpg\" alt=\"Elizabeth McGovern in Ava: The Secret Conversations (Photo: Jeff Lorch)\" width=\"1200\" height=\"800\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.ludwig-van.com\/toronto\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/5-Ava-The-Secret-Conversations-Elizabeth-McGovern.-Photo-by-Jeff-Lorch-0778.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/www.ludwig-van.com\/toronto\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/5-Ava-The-Secret-Conversations-Elizabeth-McGovern.-Photo-by-Jeff-Lorch-0778-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.ludwig-van.com\/toronto\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/5-Ava-The-Secret-Conversations-Elizabeth-McGovern.-Photo-by-Jeff-Lorch-0778-1024x683.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.ludwig-van.com\/toronto\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/11\/5-Ava-The-Secret-Conversations-Elizabeth-McGovern.-Photo-by-Jeff-Lorch-0778-768x512.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1200px) 100vw, 1200px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-119409\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Elizabeth McGovern in Ava: The Secret Conversations (Photo: Jeff Lorch)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<h3>The Production<\/h3>\n<p>The set, by <strong>David Meyer<\/strong>, is a visual treat \u2014 a lime-green and pink London hotel suite, framed by three Georgian windows, bathed in warm light that subtly shifts as the day passes.<\/p>\n<p>The lighting, by <strong>Amith Chandrashaker<\/strong>, glows beautifully on the pastel furniture, and the costumes by <strong>Toni-Leslie James<\/strong> give Ava a succession of lounging gowns that shimmer with faded glamour.<\/p>\n<h3>Epitaph<\/h3>\n<p>Remembering Rita Hayworth, Lana Turner, and Ava Gardner \u2014 you simply realize they do not make them like that anymore. Those Hollywood goddesses were larger than life, that no one today can match them.<\/p>\n<p>Even the faded Ava of The Secret Conversations can still evoke those memories of yesteryear.<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Are you looking to promote an <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ludwig-van.com\/toronto\/advertising\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"color: #0e101a\"><u>event<\/u><\/span><\/a>? Have a\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.ludwig-van.com\/toronto\/masthead\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><u>news tip<\/u><\/a>? Need to know the best\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.ludwig-van.com\/toronto\/events\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><u>events<\/u><\/a>\u00a0happening this weekend? 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