{"id":118582,"date":"2025-10-14T15:45:18","date_gmt":"2025-10-14T19:45:18","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.ludwig-van.com\/toronto\/?p=118582"},"modified":"2025-10-16T12:49:26","modified_gmt":"2025-10-16T16:49:26","slug":"interview-p-megan-andrews-executive-director-torontos-dancer-transition-resource-centre","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.ludwig-van.com\/toronto\/2025\/10\/14\/interview-p-megan-andrews-executive-director-torontos-dancer-transition-resource-centre\/","title":{"rendered":"INTERVIEW | P. Megan Andrews, Executive Director Of  The Dancer Transition Resource Centre"},"content":{"rendered":"<figure id=\"attachment_118584\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-118584\" style=\"width: 1200px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-118584\" src=\"https:\/\/www.ludwig-van.com\/toronto\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/10\/Copy-of-Copy-of-INTERVIEW-22.jpg\" alt=\"L: P. Megan Andrews, Executive Director of the Dancer Transition Resource Centre (DTRC) (Photo: Emilie Grace Media); R: Dancers Connor McLeary, Elyza Samson, Juan Duarte, Nasiv Sall (Photo: Mika Manning)\" width=\"1200\" height=\"628\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.ludwig-van.com\/toronto\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/10\/Copy-of-Copy-of-INTERVIEW-22.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/www.ludwig-van.com\/toronto\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/10\/Copy-of-Copy-of-INTERVIEW-22-300x157.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.ludwig-van.com\/toronto\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/10\/Copy-of-Copy-of-INTERVIEW-22-1024x536.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.ludwig-van.com\/toronto\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/10\/Copy-of-Copy-of-INTERVIEW-22-768x402.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1200px) 100vw, 1200px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-118584\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">L: P. Megan Andrews, Executive Director of the Dancer Transition Resource Centre (DTRC) (Photo: Emilie Grace Media); R: Dancers Connor McLeary, Elyza Samson, Juan Duarte, Nasiv Sall (Photo: Mika Manning)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>It\u2019s no secret that the career of a dancer can be a fragile one, threatened by injury and accidents, and one that typically ends at an age when many other artists are considered to be in their mid-career stage.<\/p>\n<p>The International Organization for the Transition of Professional Dancers (IOTPD), an organization that\u2019s focused on global collaboration and career advocacy for dancers, will be holding a gathering in Toronto from October 22 to 24, 2025.<\/p>\n<p>The meetings will be presented by Toronto\u2019s Dancer Transition Resource Centre (DTRC) with the International Organization for the Transition of Professional Dancers in association with <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ludwig-van.com\/toronto\/2025\/07\/08\/preview-fall-dance-north-announces-lineup-11th-anniversary-festival\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Fall for Dance North<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>The Dancer Transition Resource Centre (DTRC), a national, charitable organization dedicated to helping dancers make necessary transitions into, within, and from professional performing careers, was founded in 1985. The IOTPD has been advocating for dancers since 1993. Delegates from sister organizations from around the world will be meeting in Toronto to discuss career development, transition support, and long-term sustainability for dancers, comparing notes from different areas of the globe.<\/p>\n<p>The annual gathering coincides with DTRC\u2019s 40th anniversary, and culminates with a panel discussion that\u2019s open to the public on October 23 titled Global Perspectives on Dancer Career Development: A Panel Discussion, hosted by P. Megan Andrews, Executive Director, Dancer Transition Resource Centre.<\/p>\n<p>LV spoke to P. Megan Andrews, PhD, dance artist and scholar, movement educator and writer\/editor, and Executive Director of DTRC, about the organization and the discussion.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_118585\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-118585\" style=\"width: 1200px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-118585\" src=\"https:\/\/www.ludwig-van.com\/toronto\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/10\/DSCF7103.jpg\" alt=\"Dancers Elyza Samson, Nasiv Sall (Photo: Mika Manning)\" width=\"1200\" height=\"783\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.ludwig-van.com\/toronto\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/10\/DSCF7103.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/www.ludwig-van.com\/toronto\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/10\/DSCF7103-300x196.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.ludwig-van.com\/toronto\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/10\/DSCF7103-1024x668.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.ludwig-van.com\/toronto\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/10\/DSCF7103-768x501.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1200px) 100vw, 1200px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-118585\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Dancers Elyza Samson, Nasiv Sall (Photo: Mika Manning)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<h2>P. Megan Andrews: The Interview<\/h2>\n<p>Transitioning out of an active dance performance career often isn\u2019t part of the usual dancer training.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI think it depends on the school,\u201d Andrews remarks, \u201cbut it hasn&#8217;t typically been part of the conversation.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>She points out that dance schools are usually focused on the intensive training required to give students the skills of a professional dancer, which doesn\u2019t leave a lot of time or space to discuss what happens afterwards. It\u2019s also a difficult issue to grasp for someone just starting out.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt is,\u201d Megan acknowledges. Hence, DTRC and other organizations. \u201cThis is what I&#8217;m doing, this is what I&#8217;m devoting my life to, and I don&#8217;t see it ending.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The way a dance career ends is also something that is difficult to contemplate.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt&#8217;s sometimes by choice that people perform and have a career in the arts, and then choose to make a change, but of course there&#8217;s a high risk of injury in this field,\u201d she points out. \u201cIt can come by chance. That can be incredibly challenging and devastating.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Even a temporary disability can derail a career. \u201cAn injury means you can&#8217;t do your training or your work anymore. That&#8217;s another reason for the supports that we offer.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s not only the practical matters of physical rehab or adaptation. It\u2019s also an issue that affects mental health.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe art form and practice is so much a core of one&#8217;s identity,\u201d Andrews notes. It\u2019s a situation that\u2019s not dissimilar to actors, athletes, and other professions, but for dancers in particular, your profession is inextricably linked to the core of your body.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cAny kind of transition is fraught with those questions of who am I?\u201d she notes. \u201cBecause dancers often start when they&#8217;re three, and it&#8217;s part of their life at an early age. It&#8217;s indelibly part of who one is. It&#8217;s a very delicate conversation.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>DTRC wants to make those conversations more public to take away the stigma, and to educate. \u201cIt&#8217;s not been something that we historically foregrounded,\u201d she says.<\/p>\n<p>The organization aims to support dancers in every way possible. \u201cWe do have a counselling program,\u201d she points out. The program looks to support dance professionals in both personal and career goals, along with financial counselling and other practical matters.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe support wellness and learning.\u201d<\/p>\n<h3>Supporting Artists<\/h3>\n<p>DTRC is there for dance artists not only at the end of their careers, but to help them along the way as well.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI want to add one more nuance to that, because something that we often find when we talk about the DTRC, it\u2019s about the ultimate transition out of the field, but many of our programs are there for our dancers while they&#8217;re in their careers.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The many issues dancers often face are relocating to pursue work, facing rejection, the audition circuit, and the need to find a parallel career pathway.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt&#8217;s actually rare to be a full time dancer,\u201d she points out \u201cWe\u2019re supporting wellness.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s about helping them to build resilience and sustainability as an artist, while you&#8217;re still a practising artist. The idea of having a second career can be problematic.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cDancers don&#8217;t want to talk about it,\u201d she says \u201cThere is a kind of myth, I would say, that if you&#8217;re not all in, fully committed and no time for anything else, somehow you&#8217;re a lesser artist. I&#8217;d like to dispel that.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>As she points out, pursuing other passions makes you a better artist in the end.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_118586\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-118586\" style=\"width: 1200px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-118586\" src=\"https:\/\/www.ludwig-van.com\/toronto\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/10\/DSCF6873.jpg\" alt=\"Dancers Connor McLeary, Elyza Samson (Photo: Mika Manning)\" width=\"1200\" height=\"749\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.ludwig-van.com\/toronto\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/10\/DSCF6873.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/www.ludwig-van.com\/toronto\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/10\/DSCF6873-300x187.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.ludwig-van.com\/toronto\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/10\/DSCF6873-1024x639.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.ludwig-van.com\/toronto\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2025\/10\/DSCF6873-768x479.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1200px) 100vw, 1200px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-118586\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Dancers Connor McLeary, Elyza Samson (Photo: Mika Manning)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<h3>The Discussion<\/h3>\n<p>DTRC is a member organization of the IOTPD, an international assembly of similar organizations. Each is slightly different, however, which makes getting together to discuss policies and practises essential.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThat&#8217;s the gathering that&#8217;s happening,\u201d Andrews says. \u201cWe&#8217;ll be talking about exactly that, circumstances in different countries,\u201d she adds.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cPart of my hope is that we can talk in public about some of these issues.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>An international discussion is essential for pragmatic reasons as well. \u201cDancers move around a lot,\u201d she points out. \u201cWe&#8217;re working to enhance our international collaborations. Learning about what dancers are facing today in different regions and different parts of the world, we can also hold hands and work together.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Along with the discussions revolving around practices, the event will also pay tribute to the Dancer Transition Resource Centre and its founder, Joysanne Sidimus. Sidimus wrote a book on the subject titled Life After Dance that was published in 1987. While she began researching the topic, she was working in an environment where no such supports existed.<\/p>\n<p>Canada\u2019s DTRC was one of several organizations that formed globally in the 1970s and 1980s. The environment for dance and the arts in general has shifted over the last 40 years, but the message is still the same.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cYes, we have this incredible founder at the inception of this organization, and this organization has done quite incredible work [&#8230;] for forty years \u2014 and let&#8217;s look to the future. We\u2019re still relevant. The context has shifted, but we&#8217;re still here.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>She\u2019s grateful for the support the organization receives from arts councils at various levels, a variety of foundations, and private donors that have been there since the beginning.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt&#8217;s really about community.\u201d<\/p>\n<h3>Event Details<\/h3>\n<p>The international panel discussion will revolve around challenges and successes in supporting dancer career development and transition across the globe.<\/p>\n<p>The panel discussion takes place on Thursday, October 23 from 2 to 4 p.m. at the Centre for Social Innovation-Spadina (192 Spadina Ave, Suite 101).<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Find tickets [<strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.eventbrite.ca\/e\/global-perspectives-on-dancer-career-development-tickets-1754743066749?aff=oddtdtcreator\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">HERE<\/a><\/strong>].<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong><em>Are you looking to promote an <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ludwig-van.com\/toronto\/advertising\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"color: #0e101a;\"><u>event<\/u><\/span><\/a>? 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